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| | In response to post by - GTS - of 5/03/12 (15:30) Hello Matthew,
my performance at may are - 0.5%. but i have no trade at may!?! Regards GIF [LINKSYSTEM_69396729]
Your system subscription fee is included in performance results. |
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| Subject: | Bad performance, but i make no trade? |
| Posted by: | - Ben - ( C2 Score: 183 ) |
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| When: | 10/18/12 (16:13) | |
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| | In response to post by Matthew Klein of 5/03/12 (15:37) Your system subscription fee is included in performance results.
Hello Matthew
What is your justification for including the subscription fee in performance results?
In my opinion, the subscription fee
* has nothing to do with the system performance
* are costs outside the box
* are an unfair disadvantage for systems, that starts with a small amount
* and last but not least, high "commissions" are already part of the C2 chart
So, why do you load the C2 subscription fee on top of the equity curve?
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Ben |
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| | In response to post by - Ben - of 10/18/12 (16:13) Hello Matthew
What is your justification for including the subscription fee in performance results?
In my opinion, the subscription fee
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U.S. regulators require it.
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| Subject: | Bad performance, but i make no trade? |
| Posted by: | - Ben - ( C2 Score: 183) |
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| When: | 10/18/12 (16:26) | |
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| | In response to post by Matthew Klein of 10/18/12 (16:14) U.S. regulators require it.
Thank you for the quick respond!
But this regulatory seams to be senseless for C2 model accounts, above all the fees are not burden to the clients but payed by the system publisher!
Wouldn't it be possible to question this regulatory in the special case of C2?
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Ben |
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| | In response to post by - Ben - of 10/18/12 (16:26) Thank you for the quick respond!
But this regulatory seams to be senseless for C2 model accounts, above all the fees are not burden to the clients but payed by the system publisher!
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I think you misunderstand. The system-developer fees (i.e. the every-six-month fee you pay to publish your system on C2) are not included in the system charts or performance stats.
The subscription fees (paid by subscribers) are included.
This is required by US regulators, even though it has some pernicious effects (incentivizing people to use larger model account sizes, for example).
But I'm pretty sure this isn't the first time a regulation has had unintended consequences.
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| Subject: | Bad performance, but i make no trade? |
| Posted by: | - Ben - ( C2 Score: 183) |
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| When: | 10/18/12 (17:22) | |
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| | In response to post by Matthew Klein of 10/18/12 (16:31) I think you misunderstand. The system-developer fees (i.e. the every-six-month fee you pay to publish your system on C2) are not included in the system charts or performance stats....
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Ahh, thank you for clarification :-)
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Bernd |
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What is the C2 Score?
Collective2 rates every trading advisor in its database and assigns a score between 100 and 1000.
In general, a rating above 500 is good. A rating above 700 is excellent.
Collective2 Ratings are recalculated daily based on the entire performance history in our database. The exact formula we use is proprietary, but there are several key variables that go into the Collective2 Rating. One of the most important factors is the length of time we have been able to observe the performance of the trader. Another key factor is the amount by which the trader over-performs or under-performs the S&P 500 index. Finally, the choppiness of the trader's results is taken into account. Certainly a more consistent trader will be rated more highly than a trader with erratic results.
