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Subject:Position Sizing
Posted by:Duncan McQueen ( C2 Score: 58)  New msg
 
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When:9/07/10 (22:30) 
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I have been asked to add the ability to generate the lot size on Collective2 (from the MetaTrader trade) based on the buying power in the Collective2 system.

What derivations of how this would work would most of you like to see? I already made modifications to get the buying power, now just need to put in place the position sizing formula. This will be part of the next basic (free) edition.
  
 
Subject:Position Sizing
Posted by:danny zak ( C2 Score: 292)  New msg
 
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In response to post by Duncan McQueen of 9/07/10 (22:30)

I have been asked to add the ability to generate the lot size on Collective2 (from the MetaTrader trade) based on the bu...

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Duncan

do you know when this functionality would been released ?

I need this in my trading module since it is part of my money managment; i trade with a leverage of 10:1 ; depending on lot size for my orders

thanks
mtc-H1
  
 
Subject:Position Sizing
Posted by:eric kreitzer ( C2 Score: 914)  New msg
 
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In response to post by danny zak of 10/06/10 (7:50)

Duncan

do you know when this functionality would been released ?

I need this in my trading module...

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How can you have a successful system that does not have position sizing? Is this available now (bug-free) in the basic or the non-free version?

Isn't this part of the non-free upgrade that allows scaling out and moving stops to break-even?

Where is the link to find it??
  
 
Subject:Position Sizing
Posted by:Duncan McQueen ( C2 Score: 58)  New msg
 
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In response to post by eric kreitzer of 1/02/11 (14:23)

How can you have a successful system that does not have position sizing? Is this available now (bug-free) in the basic o...

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Eric,

Position sizing at its core has always been available. The issue is that C2 only allows lot sizing in straight whole numbers, while MetaTrader often allows fractional lots. The simple remedy to this is the LotMultiplier which converts the fractional lots to whole lots (based on simple mathematics) and should keep your system in line.

However, there are differences between what a lot represents on C2 and what it represents on your system. The problem with me writing in a lot system is what my code represents may not equal what you want to do - so again LotMultiplier is the less intrusive and easier to maintain.
  
 
Subject:Position Sizing
Posted by:eric kreitzer ( C2 Score: 914)  New msg
 
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In response to post by Duncan McQueen of 1/03/11 (9:40)

Eric,

Position sizing at its core has always been available. The issue is that C2 only allows lot sizing in ...

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You say position sizing "at its core" has always been available. What does that mean? What is "at its core"??

What is a "straight whole number"? Is that a whole number?

If I need 3.4 lots, that is what I need - not 3 lots, not 4 lots.

What is this "remedy" LotMultiplier? Can I get 3.4 lots in C2 when I enter 3.4 lots into Metatrader or not? If not, that is not a "remedy."

And what is "based on simple mathematics"? Do you mean "rounding"??

And what do you mean by "should keep your system in line"??

And what do you mean when you say "there are differences in what a lot represents on C2 and what it represents on your system"?

What is "your system"? Do you mean to say "Metatrader"?

We are talking about Metatrader here - all Metatrader lots are standard $100,000 lots, so we know that. Are you trying to say that a C2 lot is $1,000,000 or $10,000? If so, why not just say so?

Are you trying to say that C2 needs a simple multiplier like Dukascopy? Is that all "LotMultiplier" does? If LotMultiplier simply converts fractional lots to whole lots, that is Not a remedy.

"Lot sizing" has nothing to do with multiplying by some number (i.e. 10). Lot sizing is the number one trading risk management technique. If C2 cannot handle fractional lot sizing, I want my money back.

The question is (should I use Caps here?): How can I get exactly 3.4 lots in C2 when my robot calls for 3.4 lots?? Do I need some special added cost software? If so, where exactly is it (where is the link to it)? Is this your $65 software (titled "Collective 2/Metatrader Integration") from your OpenThinking site? Note that the "description" of "Collective 2/Metatrader Integration" says nothing at all about position sizing or much of anything else. Why would anyone buy it when they don't know what it does??

Again: How can I get the exact fractional lot size I need to manage risk? How can I get 3.4 lots in C2 when my metatrader robot requires 3.4 lots?


  
 
Subject:Position Sizing
Posted by:Artificial Intelligence, Inc. ( C2 Score: 135)  New msg
 
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In response to post by eric kreitzer of 1/05/11 (20:03)

You say position sizing "at its core" has always been available. What does that mean? What is "at its c...

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To get 3.4 lots from MT4 to C2 with TradeMonitor use 10 for Multiplier and a 10X sized C2 account.

1) MT4 10K account -->> C2 100K Account
2) TM 10 Multipliers
3) 3.4 in MT4 = 34 lots in C2

The money will calculate percentage correct. 1% gain in MT4 will be 1% gain in C2. Subscribers simply need to use 10% scale for 10k accounts.
  
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