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Topaz NQ100 M
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ZMC L2
ZMC L2
I spend over $7,000.00 a year with C2 for system subscriptions and for Collective2 Software Licenses. This developer has abandoned his systems and subscribers; leaving them in a devastating draw-down; even though he has worked his way out of similar draw downs in pre-subscriber simulations. Look at this system as the type of system you don't want to subscribe to. Multiple day trades that make it look like the developer knows what he's doing but subscribers never receive the same. These systems don't trade the same way after they have subscribers. The results in reality are different from the results in simulation.
ZMC L2
ZMC L2
No money management! Trade on margin and stay till the profit happens, if a bear market stay for some days they will lose all. Insane system.
Emerging S
Emerging S
I have reviewed C2 stock programs and found Emerging S is the best because:

1. High winning % - 86%.
2. Low draw down - 4.2%.
3. It has back tests upon request, with the max down around 13% during the Bear Markets.
4. Low cost.

I have asked the back test numbers for the last 2-Bear Market and last 5 pull backs. I know in Jan this year, the market was down more than 5% but Emerging S was up.

Please tell if I said anything wrong here or you find a better stock trading program.

Yulin
Value Management Portfolio
Value Management Portfolio
I 19ve subscribed to the system for about half year. So far, I 19m profitable. The system trades very infrequently. It 19s pretty suitable for people who have a regular day time work. I believe the developer has some edge in picking winning stocks, while it is obvious to confirm that will take longer period. If some short-term trading techniques could be incorporated into the system, it will be more attractive. I 19m looking forward to a consistent performance.

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Subject:ChampionTrader-ES Interesting data
Posted by:
John Taylor
John Taylor
Since May I have modified position sizing strategy for ChampionTrader-ES. Some interesting historical data:
1) For Base system,
Average return = 2000 USD per month
So, we are looking at 24,000 USD per year profits.
max DD = 5000 USD
Yearly Calmar with 5k maxDD = 24/5 = 5

2) For Current position sizing algorithm,
Average return = 4000 USD per month
So, around 50k profits per year profits
max DD = 8000 USD
Yearly Calmar with 8k maxDD = 50/8 = 6

Note:
(A) Historical backtesting data has many limitations. Futur results can differ from historical data
(B) System was being modified in Apr-May 2014 and was not being traded. Please ignore that Drawdown. It doesn't reflect the system. For further details, please PM. I will clarify and answer all your questions. Thanks. Best - John
Subject:System New Method - is not gold all that glitters
Posted by:
A. Nevado
A. Nevado
This system don't reflect the reality in his stats, they are pretty worst as you can see.
And this is because the rollover:

To people dont know what it is, is a rate that normally you have to pay (sometimes you recieve) that is calculate between differences of interest rates between currencies.
We can see a example with EUR/AUD , rollover cost in FXCM is -1,39, and the system have opened 18 lots
Then each day that position are opened you have to pay 18x1,39=25$ day
Each month 25x20days=500$
This positions was open 4 months ago, that means 2000$ lost only with rollover in this position!

You can calculate for all positions that the systems have opened, and see that is very hard earn money with this system.

I dont understand why C2, have a lot of disclaimers about risks, etc. but never say nothing about this, that is so important! and in the calculations of earns, C2 calculate profit - comissions, but dont count nothing about rollover, that have more importance than comissions in FX systems.

If they add this, a winner system would change to losing system.

Id like to add this as review of the system, but unfortunatly i dont know why is not allowed the reviews on this system.

I lost a lot of money because this situation, i didnt know nothing about rollover fx until i discover it, because i was frustrating why my account instead grow up it drecase. Then the rest take care! you can think are earning a lot of money but the true is that you are losing money with this system as i did!
Subject:GoldmetreB
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L A
L A
Free week on GoldmetreB. Check out it's impressive stats on the grid.

Lee
Subject:GoldmetreB
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pr trading
pr trading
nice, but what happened to goldmetre and goldmetreA?
Subject:GoldmetreB
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L A
L A
Different algo...what happened to your comedy career?
Subject:GoldmetreB
Posted by:
Jiong Shi
Jiong Shi
PRtrading- what is that big crater in your equity curve and why would someone risk that for pathetic returns?
Subject:GoldmetreB
Posted by:
pr trading
pr trading
Hi Jiong. The system had a 19% drawdown. Since inception its up over 57k or 57% of its starting pot.
Subject:C2 University
Posted by:
Matthew Klein
Matthew Klein
We have added a new section to this site called "C2 University."

It's a collection of short (some might say mercifully short) videos, each one describing one particular aspect of C2.

C2 University is still pretty bare-bones - think of it more like a Phoenix University, for now - but we hope to turn it into a Yale. Or at least a Harvard. So it will improve over time.

You can find it under the INFORMATION menu up top, or here:

www.collective2.com/videos

Subject:C2 University
Posted by:
John Richard
John Richard
nice.
Subject:C2 University
Posted by:
Adrienne DeMarco
Adrienne DeMarco
awesome add!!! can you tell me if you can see who is viewing you and how many times?
Subject:HE trade missing
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David Aronow
David Aronow
Starting a new post because there's no way to reply to the old one since it doesn't appear on the Dashboard and the forums don't let you post anymore :(

Signal 88613323 was entered last night for @HEQ4 and should be valid until this afternoon but it's gone this morning (it was entered at 8:14 PM EST last night). I think it's being expired at midnight based on what I see for the HE hours in the symbol list.

Regards,
dave
Subject:HE trade missing
Posted by:
Matthew Klein
Matthew Klein
Hi, Dave: I think the market-hours issue for CME Lean Hogs has been corrected going forward. Please let me know if you notice any further issues.
Subject:HE trade missing
Posted by:
David Aronow
David Aronow
Thanks sounds good. Is there any way to reply to older posts for now until the forum work is done? Or just open a new one each time?
Subject:Dividend
Posted by:
John Richard
John Richard
Are dividends included in the return of a system?
Subject:Dividend
Posted by:
Alexander Wor
Alexander Wor
The dividends are included. Matthew posted this as an answer to a related question:
"Dividends are added to your Model Account's cash on the pay date (not the ex-dividend date). You won't see them added to a single position's profit-loss, but they will be added to your Model Account cash. You can see itemization of all dividends paid by clicking the magnifying glass in the upper right of your system's main chart."

Hope that helps.
Subject:Dividend
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John Richard
John Richard
thanks Alexander.
Subject:Suggestion: Closed trades overview
Posted by:
Alexander Wor
Alexander Wor
Hi, I have a suggestion for the "Closed Trades" list. I think that being able to search for specific dates in the closed trades list would be really helpful in order to evalute a systems individual trades. Also, if we could get a sorting system for the different measurements of B/S, #, Symbol, DD and P/L would be very helpful. A simple high to low and low to high sorting system would be very nice.

- Alexander
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