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(42446526)

Created by: KarthikSubramanian KarthikSubramanian
Started: 08/2009
Forex
Last trade: 5,348 days ago

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Rate of Return Calculations

Overview

To comply with NFA regulations, we display Cumulative Rate of Return for strategies with a track record of less than one year. For strategies with longer track records, we display Annualized (Compounded) Rate of Return.

How Cumulative Rate of Return is calculated

= (Ending_equity - Starting_equity) / Starting_equity

Remember that, following NFA requirements, strategy subscription costs and estimated commissions are included in marked-to-market equity calculations.

All results are hypothetical.

(100.0%)
Max Drawdown
60
Num Trades
83.3%
Win Trades
0.3 : 1
Profit Factor
40.7%
Win Months
Hypothetical Monthly Returns (includes system fee and Typical Broker commissions and fees)
 JanFebMarAprMayJunJulAugSepOctNovDecYTD
2009                                                 (14.1%)(111.2%)(17.5%)(64.7%)(72%)(103.6%)
2010(155.9%)(36.1%)(54.6%)(18.9%)(150.8%)(30.1%)(9.8%)(25.3%)(6.9%)(23.6%)(18.7%)(22.5%)(657.2%)
2011(10.1%)(0.9%)(3.2%)(6.7%)(8.3%)(4.4%)(25.8%)(6.8%)(7.1%)(1.7%)(5.3%)(1.7%)(32.1%)
2012(6.2%)(31.4%)(13.4%)(19.8%)(29.6%)(12.8%)(10.2%)(3%)(0.7%)(10%)(20.4%)(38%)-
2013(54.9%)(21.3%)(7.3%)(139.6%)+208.6%(70.1%)+29.7%+41.6%+63.4%(13.4%)+138.5%+38.6%(203.2%)
2014(28.2%)+5.1%+13.4%(1.6%)(11.1%)+4.5%+7.6%+10.1%+34.7%+20.3%+24.9%+4.0%+95.0%
2015(14.7%)+13.0%(4.9%)+4.1%+15.4%+0.7%+1.3%(11.3%)(5.3%)+5.7%+3.3%(9.2%)(6.5%)
2016(4.3%)(35.9%)(3.9%)(32.3%)+45.1%(88.1%)(37%)(20.6%)(159.2%)(403.2%)+555.9%+42.9%(41.9%)
2017(5.7%)(23.1%)(11.1%)+19.5%(5.3%)+16.2%(8.5%)(16.5%)+36.0%+13.7%(7.9%)+4.0%(4.2%)
2018(17.1%)(21.6%)(7.6%)+31.7%(19.6%)+24.1%+0.4%+4.4%+18.2%(6%)(1.3%)(27.3%)(33.9%)
2019(0.2%)+20.1%(2.7%)+7.3%(14.6%)  -  (50.3%)+62.2%+48.3%+15.2%+4.6%+1.5%
2020(5.8%)(7.8%)(29.2%)(19%)+15.0%(9.7%)+10.8%+2.2%(25.6%)(12.4%)+16.4%(10.5%)(60.3%)
2021+51.9%+51.1%+34.9%(6.9%)+16.8%+1.5%(6.6%)(2.3%)+6.5%+27.4%(14.8%)+19.0%+329.3%
2022(0.1%)+2.6%+18.1%+28.9%(1.2%)+21.3%(3.3%)+3.8%+10.6%+7.0%(11.9%)(12%)+72.1%
2023(4.4%)+11.0%(9.4%)+10.3%+15.0%+10.3%(4.2%)+7.5%+0.4%+1.1%+3.1%(12.1%)+27.5%
2024+11.6%+4.5%+0.3%+6.7%(4.6%)                                          +18.9%

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9/11/09 11:21 GBP/USD GBP/USD LONG 60 1.66525 9/25 10:20 1.63395 21.19%
Trade id #43008855
Max drawdown($18,781)
Time9/15/09 11:22
Quant open60
Worst price1.64020
Drawdown as % of equity-21.19%
($18,781)
9/11/09 10:45 GBP/USD GBP/USD LONG 20 1.67009 9/11 11:10 1.67132 0.23%
Trade id #43007601
Max drawdown($238)
Time9/11/09 10:55
Quant open20
Worst price1.66890
Drawdown as % of equity-0.23%
$246
9/11/09 10:26 GBP/USD GBP/USD LONG 20 1.66877 9/11 10:43 1.67002 0.11%
Trade id #43007183
Max drawdown($114)
Time9/11/09 10:30
Quant open20
Worst price1.66820
Drawdown as % of equity-0.11%
$250
9/11/09 9:30 GBP/USD GBP/USD LONG 40 1.66835 9/11 10:25 1.66859 0.77%
Trade id #43004550
Max drawdown($800)
Time9/11/09 10:04
Quant open20
Worst price1.66580
Drawdown as % of equity-0.77%
$96
9/11/09 5:33 GBP/USD GBP/USD LONG 30 1.67051 9/11 9:29 1.67134 0.61%
Trade id #43000767
Max drawdown($633)
Time9/11/09 8:23
Quant open30
Worst price1.66840
Drawdown as % of equity-0.61%
$249
9/11/09 2:15 GBP/USD GBP/USD SHORT 20 1.67287 9/11 2:39 1.67129 n/a $316
9/10/09 21:58 GBP/CHF GBP/CHF LONG 20 1.73075 9/11 2:09 1.73314 0.08%
Trade id #42995144
Max drawdown($86)
Time9/11/09 0:40
Quant open20
Worst price1.73030
Drawdown as % of equity-0.08%
$460
9/10/09 7:08 GBP/CHF GBP/CHF LONG 22 1.72788 9/10 7:49 1.72930 0.7%
Trade id #42977685
Max drawdown($684)
Time9/10/09 7:33
Quant open22
Worst price1.72464
Drawdown as % of equity-0.70%
$300
8/31/09 2:15 GBP/USD GBP/USD SHORT 20 1.62214 9/1 12:43 1.61681 3.45%
Trade id #42781389
Max drawdown($3,104)
Time9/1/09 3:43
Quant open-20
Worst price1.63766
Drawdown as % of equity-3.45%
$1,066
8/28/09 7:46 EUR/JPY EUR/JPY SHORT 20 134.680 8/28 10:53 134.399 0.35%
Trade id #42757975
Max drawdown($342)
Time8/28/09 8:10
Quant open-20
Worst price134.840
Drawdown as % of equity-0.35%
$599
8/27/09 23:22 GBP/USD GBP/USD LONG 20 1.62731 8/28 2:43 1.63022 0.19%
Trade id #42752230
Max drawdown($182)
Time8/28/09 0:36
Quant open20
Worst price1.62640
Drawdown as % of equity-0.19%
$582
8/25/09 13:16 GBP/USD GBP/USD SHORT 20 1.63547 8/26 3:44 1.63417 0.16%
Trade id #42696951
Max drawdown($182)
Time8/25/09 15:25
Quant open-20
Worst price1.63638
Drawdown as % of equity-0.16%
$260
8/23/09 21:54 EUR/JPY EUR/JPY LONG 20 135.785 8/24 10:53 135.778 0.82%
Trade id #42658046
Max drawdown($970)
Time8/24/09 3:01
Quant open20
Worst price135.324
Drawdown as % of equity-0.82%
($15)
8/24/09 3:01 AUD/USD AUD/USD LONG 20 0.83656 8/24 3:52 0.83808 0.12%
Trade id #42660021
Max drawdown($142)
Time8/24/09 3:12
Quant open20
Worst price0.83585
Drawdown as % of equity-0.12%
$304
8/24/09 0:49 AUD/JPY AUD/JPY LONG 40 79.416 8/24 3:52 79.547 0.75%
Trade id #42659012
Max drawdown($880)
Time8/24/09 3:02
Quant open40
Worst price79.207
Drawdown as % of equity-0.75%
$551
8/23/09 21:17 EUR/JPY EUR/JPY SHORT 20 135.955 8/23 21:36 135.775 0.05%
Trade id #42657881
Max drawdown($60)
Time8/23/09 21:21
Quant open-20
Worst price135.984
Drawdown as % of equity-0.05%
$380
8/21/09 10:30 EUR/JPY EUR/JPY LONG 20 135.106 8/21 10:53 135.159 0.21%
Trade id #42642249
Max drawdown($224)
Time8/21/09 10:33
Quant open20
Worst price135.000
Drawdown as % of equity-0.21%
$112
8/20/09 2:30 GBP/JPY GBP/JPY LONG 120 155.931 8/21 10:09 156.102 28.08%
Trade id #42604945
Max drawdown($30,648)
Time8/21/09 1:09
Quant open120
Worst price153.530
Drawdown as % of equity-28.08%
$2,193
8/20/09 21:22 EUR/GBP EUR/GBP SHORT 10 0.86455 8/21 4:15 0.86737 0.43%
Trade id #42626797
Max drawdown($465)
Time8/21/09 4:15
Quant open-10
Worst price0.86720
Drawdown as % of equity-0.43%
($465)
8/20/09 13:27 EUR/AUD EUR/AUD SHORT 40 1.71444 8/20 20:54 1.71952 1.55%
Trade id #42619999
Max drawdown($1,688)
Time8/20/09 15:08
Quant open-20
Worst price1.71578
Drawdown as % of equity-1.55%
($1,688)
8/19/09 13:04 GBP/USD GBP/USD LONG 40 1.65431 8/20 0:23 1.65276 0.84%
Trade id #42573699
Max drawdown($940)
Time8/20/09 0:01
Quant open40
Worst price1.65196
Drawdown as % of equity-0.84%
($620)
8/19/09 13:02 USD/CAD USD/CAD SHORT 20 1.09596 8/19 13:35 1.09582 0.09%
Trade id #42573593
Max drawdown($98)
Time8/19/09 13:18
Quant open-20
Worst price1.09650
Drawdown as % of equity-0.09%
$26
8/19/09 10:53 EUR/JPY EUR/JPY LONG 20 133.482 8/19 11:58 133.765 0.61%
Trade id #42565689
Max drawdown($676)
Time8/19/09 10:59
Quant open20
Worst price133.165
Drawdown as % of equity-0.61%
$603
8/19/09 10:52 GBP/JPY GBP/JPY LONG 40 154.817 8/19 11:53 155.063 0.97%
Trade id #42565613
Max drawdown($1,081)
Time8/19/09 10:59
Quant open20
Worst price154.493
Drawdown as % of equity-0.97%
$1,048
8/19/09 7:31 GBP/JPY GBP/JPY LONG 40 154.424 8/19 10:36 155.071 2.15%
Trade id #42555859
Max drawdown($2,399)
Time8/19/09 8:28
Quant open20
Worst price153.648
Drawdown as % of equity-2.15%
$2,744
8/19/09 4:33 GBP/USD GBP/USD SHORT 20 1.64156 8/19 4:46 1.64283 0.24%
Trade id #42553773
Max drawdown($272)
Time8/19/09 4:46
Quant open-20
Worst price1.64292
Drawdown as % of equity-0.24%
($254)
8/18/09 21:51 GBP/USD GBP/USD SHORT 20 1.65150 8/19 3:50 1.64591 0.84%
Trade id #42550155
Max drawdown($941)
Time8/19/09 0:58
Quant open-20
Worst price1.65621
Drawdown as % of equity-0.84%
$1,118
8/18/09 21:32 GBP/CHF GBP/CHF SHORT 20 1.77691 8/18 21:34 1.77780 0.16%
Trade id #42550061
Max drawdown($166)
Time8/18/09 21:34
Quant open-20
Worst price1.77752
Drawdown as % of equity-0.16%
($166)
8/18/09 20:54 GBP/USD GBP/USD SHORT 40 1.65473 8/18 21:15 1.65252 0.19%
Trade id #42549428
Max drawdown($200)
Time8/18/09 21:01
Quant open-40
Worst price1.65523
Drawdown as % of equity-0.19%
$884
8/18/09 5:53 EUR/JPY EUR/JPY LONG 40 133.968 8/18 20:39 134.243 1.94%
Trade id #42529199
Max drawdown($2,044)
Time8/18/09 9:01
Quant open20
Worst price133.173
Drawdown as % of equity-1.94%
$1,156

Statistics

  • Strategy began
    8/13/2009
  • Suggested Minimum Cap
    $100,000
  • Strategy Age (days)
    5385.14
  • Age
    180 months ago
  • What it trades
    Forex
  • # Trades
    60
  • # Profitable
    50
  • % Profitable
    83.30%
  • Avg trade duration
    89.9 days
  • Max peak-to-valley drawdown
    100%
  • drawdown period
    Sept 24, 2009 - Sept 23, 2011
  • Annual return (compounded)
    -4.8%
  • Avg win
    $528.20
  • Avg loss
    $7,673
  • Model Account Values (Raw)
  • Cash
    $104,156
  • Margin Used
    $1,127
  • Buying Power
    $101,394
  • Ratios
  • W:L ratio
    0.34:1
  • Sharpe Ratio
    0.27
  • Sortino Ratio
    1.07
  • Calmar Ratio
    12.023
  • CORRELATION STATISTICS
  • Correlation to SP500
    0.01690
  • Return of Strat Pcnt - Return of SP500 Pcnt (cumu)
    -162.90%
  • Return Percent SP500 (cumu) during strategy life
    423.05%
  • Return Statistics
  • Ann Return (w trading costs)
    -62.4%
  • Instruments
  • Percent Trades Options
    n/a
  • Percent Trades Futures
    n/a
  • Slump
  • Current Slump, time of slump as pcnt of strategy life
    1.00%
  • Instruments
  • Percent Trades Stocks
    n/a
  • Slump
  • Current Slump as Pcnt Equity
    153.30%
  • Return Statistics
  • Return Pcnt Since TOS Status
    n/a
  • Instruments
  • Percent Trades Forex
    1.00%
  • Return Statistics
  • Ann Return (Compnd, No Fees)
    -4.8%
  • Risk of Ruin (Monte-Carlo)
  • Chance of 10% account loss
    100.00%
  • Chance of 20% account loss
    100.00%
  • Chance of 30% account loss
    100.00%
  • Chance of 40% account loss
    100.00%
  • Chance of 60% account loss (Monte Carlo)
    100.00%
  • Chance of 70% account loss (Monte Carlo)
    100.00%
  • Chance of 80% account loss (Monte Carlo)
    100.00%
  • Chance of 90% account loss (Monte Carlo)
    91.67%
  • Chance of 100% account loss (Monte Carlo)
    84.00%
  • Automation
  • Percentage Signals Automated
    n/a
  • Risk of Ruin (Monte-Carlo)
  • Chance of 50% account loss
    100.00%
  • Trading Style
  • Any stock shorts? 0/1
    0
  • Trades-Own-System Certification
  • Trades Own System?
    -
  • TOS percent
    n/a
  • Win / Loss
  • Avg Win
    $528
  • Avg Loss
    $7,674
  • Sum Trade PL (losers)
    $76,738.000
  • Sum Trade PL (winners)
    $26,410.000
  • # Winners
    50
  • Dividends
  • Dividends Received in Model Acct
    0
  • Win / Loss
  • Num Months Winners
    0
  • Age
  • Num Months filled monthly returns table
    2
  • Win / Loss
  • # Losers
    10
  • % Winners
    83.3%
  • Frequency
  • Avg Position Time (mins)
    129489.00
  • Avg Position Time (hrs)
    2158.15
  • Avg Trade Length
    89.9 days
  • Last Trade Ago
    5343
  • Regression
  • Alpha
    0.00
  • Beta
    0.16
  • Treynor Index
    0.00
  • Maximum Adverse Excursion (MAE)
  • MAE:PL (avg, all trades)
    2.54
  • MAE:Equity, average, all trades
    0.02
  • Avg(MAE) / Avg(PL) - All trades
    19.462
  • MAE:Equity, losing trades only, 95th Percentile Value for this strat
    -
  • MAE:Equity, win trades only, 95th Percentile Value for this strat
    -
  • MAE:PL - Losing Trades - this strat Percentile of All Strats
    89.49
  • MAE:PL - Winning Trades - this strat Percentile of All Strats
    76.05
  • MAE:Equity, 95th Percentile Value for this strat
    0.26
  • MAE:PL (avg, winning trades)
    -
  • MAE:PL - worst single value for strategy
    -
  • MAE:Equity, average, winning trades
    0.01
  • MAE:Equity, average, losing trades
    0.03
  • MAE:PL (avg, losing trades)
    -
  • Avg(MAE) / Avg(PL) - Winning trades
    5.632
  • Avg(MAE) / Avg(PL) - Losing trades
    -1.088
  • Hold-and-Hope Ratio
    -0.289
  • Analysis based on DAILY values, full history
  • RATIO STATISTICS
  • Ratio statistics of excess return rates
  • Statistics related to linear regression on benchmark
  • a (intercept, estimate of alpha)
    43694.50000
  • Analysis based on DAILY values, last 6 months only
  • Ratio statistics of excess log return rates
  • VAR (95 Confidence Intrvl)
    0.72200
  • DRAW DOWN STATISTICS
  • Risk estimates based on draw downs (based on Extreme Value T
  • assuming Pareto losses only (using partial moments from Sortino statistics)
  • Max Equity Drawdown (num days)
    729
  • Last 4 Months - Pcnt Negative
    0.50%

Strategy Description

Summary Statistics

Strategy began
2009-08-13
Suggested Minimum Capital
$100,000
# Trades
60
# Profitable
50
% Profitable
83.3%
Correlation S&P500
0.017
Sharpe Ratio
0.27
Sortino Ratio
1.07
Beta
0.16
Alpha
0.00

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