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Scrapped: C2 extreme risk miscalulation.
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Created by: MDB3 MDB3
Started: 09/2009
Stocks
Last trade: 5,948 days ago

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Rate of Return Calculations

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To comply with NFA regulations, we display Cumulative Rate of Return for strategies with a track record of less than one year. For strategies with longer track records, we display Annualized (Compounded) Rate of Return.

How Cumulative Rate of Return is calculated

= (Ending_equity - Starting_equity) / Starting_equity

Remember that, following NFA requirements, strategy subscription costs and estimated commissions are included in marked-to-market equity calculations.

All results are hypothetical.

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Max Drawdown
235
Num Trades
48.1%
Win Trades
1.0 : 1
Profit Factor
3.0%
Win Months
Hypothetical Monthly Returns (includes system fee and Typical Broker commissions and fees)
 JanFebMarAprMayJunJulAugSepOctNovDecYTD
2009                                                        (7.1%)(0.6%)+0.4%(7%)(13.8%)
2010+6.4%(0.1%)  -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -  +0.4%+6.7%
2011  -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -  0.0
2012  -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -  0.0
2013  -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -  0.0
2014  -  (0.1%)  -    -  (0.1%)  -  (0.1%)(0.1%)(0.1%)  -    -  (0.1%)(0.5%)
2015(0.2%)  -  (0.1%)+0.1%  -    -    -    -    -    -  (0.1%)+0.1%(0.2%)
2016  -    -  +0.1%  -  (0.1%)  -    -    -    -  (0.1%)  -    -  0.0
2017  -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -  0.0
2018  -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -  0.0
2019  -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -  0.0
2020  -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -  0.0
2021  -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -  0.0
2022  -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -  0.0
2023  -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -  0.0
2024  -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -  0.0
2025  -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -    -  0.0
2026  -    -    -    -    -    -                                      0.0

Model Account Details

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Trading Record

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Opened Date/TimeSymbolDescriptionSideQuantAvg PriceClosed Date/TimeAvg PriceDrawdownP/L
2/25/10 7:34 EUR/USD EUR/USD SHORT 10 1.34865 2/25 7:34 1.34868 n/a ($0.30)
1/26/10 8:57 GBP/USD GBP/USD LONG 2000 1.61106 1/26 9:19 1.61126 1.29%
Trade id #46621509
Max drawdown($3,380)
Time1/26/10 9:14
Quant open200
Worst price1.60937
Drawdown as % of equity-1.29%
$400.00
1/26/10 5:45 GBP/USD GBP/USD LONG 2000 1.61179 1/26 7:59 1.61423 1.17%
Trade id #46618560
Max drawdown($3,070)
Time1/26/10 6:25
Quant open200
Worst price1.61026
Drawdown as % of equity-1.17%
$4,880.00
1/22/10 11:53 INTC INTEL LONG 1,970 20.39 1/22 11:56 20.37 0.01%
Trade id #46565001
Max drawdown($39)
Time1/22/10 11:55
Quant open1,970
Worst price20.38
Drawdown as % of equity-0.01%
($44)
Includes Typical Broker Commissions trade costs of $5.00
1/22/10 11:52 IBM INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS MACHINES SHORT 313 127.25 1/22 11:56 127.18 0.01%
Trade id #46564987
Max drawdown($18)
Time1/22/10 11:54
Quant open-313
Worst price127.31
Drawdown as % of equity-0.01%
$16
Includes Typical Broker Commissions trade costs of $6.26
1/22/10 10:37 BA BOEING SHORT 684 58.66 1/22 11:56 58.86 0.13%
Trade id #46562118
Max drawdown($348)
Time1/22/10 11:37
Quant open-684
Worst price59.17
Drawdown as % of equity-0.13%
($142)
Includes Typical Broker Commissions trade costs of $5.00
1/22/10 10:37 AXP AMERICAN EXPRESS LONG 1,003 40.20 1/22 11:56 40.13 0.14%
Trade id #46562100
Max drawdown($361)
Time1/22/10 10:59
Quant open1,003
Worst price39.84
Drawdown as % of equity-0.14%
($75)
Includes Typical Broker Commissions trade costs of $5.00
1/22/10 10:32 HPQ HEWLETT-PACKARD SHORT 1,563 50.64 1/22 11:55 50.62 0.09%
Trade id #46561911
Max drawdown($250)
Time1/22/10 11:36
Quant open-1,563
Worst price50.80
Drawdown as % of equity-0.09%
$56
Includes Typical Broker Commissions trade costs of $7.50
1/22/10 10:32 HON HONEYWELL INTERNATIONAL LONG 1,945 40.91 1/22 11:55 40.43 0.35%
Trade id #46561910
Max drawdown($934)
Time1/22/10 11:55
Quant open1,945
Worst price40.45
Drawdown as % of equity-0.35%
($939)
Includes Typical Broker Commissions trade costs of $5.00
1/22/10 10:12 HD HOME DEPOT SHORT 1,418 28.20 1/22 11:55 28.28 0.15%
Trade id #46560742
Max drawdown($411)
Time1/22/10 11:04
Quant open-1,418
Worst price28.49
Drawdown as % of equity-0.15%
($118)
Includes Typical Broker Commissions trade costs of $5.00
1/22/10 10:12 GE GE AEROSPACE LONG 2,423 16.55 1/22 11:55 16.48 0.21%
Trade id #46560718
Max drawdown($557)
Time1/22/10 10:19
Quant open2,423
Worst price16.32
Drawdown as % of equity-0.21%
($175)
Includes Typical Broker Commissions trade costs of $5.00
1/22/10 10:12 DIS WALT DISNEY LONG 1,320 30.30 1/22 11:54 30.49 0.08%
Trade id #46560712
Max drawdown($211)
Time1/22/10 10:19
Quant open1,320
Worst price30.14
Drawdown as % of equity-0.08%
$246
Includes Typical Broker Commissions trade costs of $5.00
1/22/10 10:12 DD DU PONT DE NEMOURS & CO SHORT 1,214 33.04 1/22 11:54 33.22 0.29%
Trade id #46560702
Max drawdown($776)
Time1/22/10 11:22
Quant open-1,214
Worst price33.68
Drawdown as % of equity-0.29%
($224)
Includes Typical Broker Commissions trade costs of $5.00
1/22/10 10:11 AIG AMERICAN INTERNATIONAL SHORT 1,477 27.13 1/22 11:54 27.41 0.34%
Trade id #46560633
Max drawdown($915)
Time1/22/10 10:40
Quant open-1,477
Worst price27.75
Drawdown as % of equity-0.34%
($419)
Includes Typical Broker Commissions trade costs of $5.00
1/22/10 10:11 AA ALCOA LONG 2,872 13.98 1/22 11:54 13.80 0.19%
Trade id #46560596
Max drawdown($517)
Time1/22/10 11:51
Quant open2,872
Worst price13.80
Drawdown as % of equity-0.19%
($522)
Includes Typical Broker Commissions trade costs of $5.00
1/22/10 10:13 INTC INTEL SHORT 1,970 20.29 1/22 11:53 20.39 0.16%
Trade id #46560782
Max drawdown($413)
Time1/22/10 11:06
Quant open-1,970
Worst price20.50
Drawdown as % of equity-0.16%
($202)
Includes Typical Broker Commissions trade costs of $5.00
1/22/10 10:13 IBM INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS MACHINES LONG 313 127.58 1/22 11:52 127.25 0.05%
Trade id #46560800
Max drawdown($140)
Time1/22/10 10:19
Quant open313
Worst price127.13
Drawdown as % of equity-0.05%
($109)
Includes Typical Broker Commissions trade costs of $6.26
1/22/10 10:11 BA BOEING LONG 684 58.50 1/22 10:37 58.66 0.06%
Trade id #46560690
Max drawdown($157)
Time1/22/10 10:18
Quant open684
Worst price58.27
Drawdown as % of equity-0.06%
$104
Includes Typical Broker Commissions trade costs of $5.00
1/22/10 10:11 AXP AMERICAN EXPRESS SHORT 1,003 39.78 1/22 10:37 40.20 0.17%
Trade id #46560670
Max drawdown($461)
Time1/22/10 10:37
Quant open-1,003
Worst price40.24
Drawdown as % of equity-0.17%
($426)
Includes Typical Broker Commissions trade costs of $5.00
1/22/10 10:04 HPQ HEWLETT-PACKARD LONG 1,563 50.81 1/22 10:31 50.64 0.26%
Trade id #46559975
Max drawdown($703)
Time1/22/10 10:23
Quant open1,563
Worst price50.36
Drawdown as % of equity-0.26%
($271)
Includes Typical Broker Commissions trade costs of $5.00
1/22/10 10:04 HON HONEYWELL INTERNATIONAL SHORT 1,945 40.76 1/22 10:31 40.91 0.11%
Trade id #46559944
Max drawdown($292)
Time1/22/10 10:31
Quant open-1,945
Worst price40.87
Drawdown as % of equity-0.11%
($297)
Includes Typical Broker Commissions trade costs of $5.00
1/22/10 9:50 DD DU PONT DE NEMOURS & CO SHORT 2,415 33.03 1/22 10:09 33.03 0.15%
Trade id #46559021
Max drawdown($410)
Time1/22/10 10:01
Quant open-2,415
Worst price33.20
Drawdown as % of equity-0.15%
($5)
Includes Typical Broker Commissions trade costs of $5.00
1/22/10 9:50 DIS WALT DISNEY LONG 2,640 30.35 1/22 10:09 30.24 0.11%
Trade id #46559041
Max drawdown($290)
Time1/22/10 10:09
Quant open2,640
Worst price30.26
Drawdown as % of equity-0.11%
($295)
Includes Typical Broker Commissions trade costs of $5.00
1/22/10 9:39 AXP AMERICAN EXPRESS LONG 1,914 41.07 1/22 10:09 39.73 0.96%
Trade id #46558303
Max drawdown($2,565)
Time1/22/10 10:09
Quant open1,914
Worst price39.73
Drawdown as % of equity-0.96%
($2,570)
Includes Typical Broker Commissions trade costs of $5.00
1/21/10 13:32 BA BOEING LONG 4,044 58.80 1/22 10:08 58.48 0.56%
Trade id #46539764
Max drawdown($1,482)
Time1/22/10 9:33
Quant open1,348
Worst price58.25
Drawdown as % of equity-0.56%
($1,309)
Includes Typical Broker Commissions trade costs of $15.00
1/21/10 14:01 HPQ HEWLETT-PACKARD SHORT 1,563 51.07 1/22 10:04 50.81 0.23%
Trade id #46540438
Max drawdown($625)
Time1/21/10 15:49
Quant open-1,563
Worst price51.47
Drawdown as % of equity-0.23%
$401
Includes Typical Broker Commissions trade costs of $5.00
1/21/10 14:01 HON HONEYWELL INTERNATIONAL LONG 1,945 41.16 1/22 10:04 40.76 0.9%
Trade id #46540423
Max drawdown($2,392)
Time1/22/10 8:01
Quant open1,945
Worst price39.93
Drawdown as % of equity-0.90%
($783)
Includes Typical Broker Commissions trade costs of $5.00
1/21/10 13:31 AXP AMERICAN EXPRESS SHORT 1,914 41.77 1/22 9:38 41.07 0.39%
Trade id #46539755
Max drawdown($1,052)
Time1/21/10 14:38
Quant open-1,914
Worst price42.32
Drawdown as % of equity-0.39%
$1,335
Includes Typical Broker Commissions trade costs of $5.00
1/21/10 12:10 HPQ HEWLETT-PACKARD SHORT 1,563 51.25 1/21 13:30 51.11 0%
Trade id #46537065
Max drawdown$0
Time1/21/10 12:12
Quant open-1,563
Worst price51.25
Drawdown as % of equity0.00%
$214
Includes Typical Broker Commissions trade costs of $5.00
1/21/10 12:09 HON HONEYWELL INTERNATIONAL LONG 1,945 41.19 1/21 13:30 41.32 0.07%
Trade id #46537058
Max drawdown($175)
Time1/21/10 12:20
Quant open1,945
Worst price41.10
Drawdown as % of equity-0.07%
$248
Includes Typical Broker Commissions trade costs of $5.00

Statistics

  • Strategy began
    9/8/2009
  • Suggested Minimum Cap
    $265,703
  • Strategy Age (days)
    6113.29
  • Age
    204 months ago
  • What it trades
    Stocks
  • # Trades
    235
  • # Profitable
    113
  • % Profitable
    48.10%
  • Avg trade duration
    4.0 days
  • Max peak-to-valley drawdown
    %
  • drawdown period
    Dec , - Dec ,
  • Annual return (compounded)
    0.0%
  • Avg win
    $866.96
  • Avg loss
    $806.93
  • Model Account Values (Raw)
  • Cash
    $266,100
  • Margin Used
    $0
  • Buying Power
    $266,100
  • Ratios
  • W:L ratio
    1.00:1
  • Sharpe Ratio
    -0.89
  • Sortino Ratio
    -1.27
  • Calmar Ratio
    0.073
  • CORRELATION STATISTICS
  • Correlation to SP500
    -0.01630
  • Return of Strat Pcnt - Return of SP500 Pcnt (cumu)
    -65.94%
  • Return Percent SP500 (cumu) during strategy life
    609.47%
  • Return Statistics
  • Ann Return (w trading costs)
    -1.1%
  • Instruments
  • Percent Trades Options
    n/a
  • Percent Trades Futures
    0.04%
  • Slump
  • Current Slump, time of slump as pcnt of strategy life
    1.00%
  • Instruments
  • Percent Trades Stocks
    0.94%
  • Slump
  • Current Slump as Pcnt Equity
    9.30%
  • Return Statistics
  • Return Pcnt Since TOS Status
    n/a
  • Instruments
  • Percent Trades Forex
    0.02%
  • Return Statistics
  • Ann Return (Compnd, No Fees)
    0.0%
  • Risk of Ruin (Monte-Carlo)
  • Chance of 10% account loss
    6.67%
  • Chance of 20% account loss
    n/a
  • Chance of 30% account loss
    n/a
  • Chance of 40% account loss
    n/a
  • Chance of 60% account loss (Monte Carlo)
    n/a
  • Chance of 70% account loss (Monte Carlo)
    n/a
  • Chance of 80% account loss (Monte Carlo)
    n/a
  • Chance of 90% account loss (Monte Carlo)
    n/a
  • Chance of 100% account loss (Monte Carlo)
    n/a
  • Automation
  • Percentage Signals Automated
    n/a
  • Risk of Ruin (Monte-Carlo)
  • Chance of 50% account loss
    n/a
  • Trading Style
  • Any stock shorts? 0/1
    1
  • Trades-Own-System Certification
  • Trades Own System?
    -
  • TOS percent
    n/a
  • Win / Loss
  • Avg Win
    $867
  • Avg Loss
    $807
  • Sum Trade PL (losers)
    $98,445.000
  • Sum Trade PL (winners)
    $97,966.000
  • # Winners
    113
  • Dividends
  • Dividends Received in Model Acct
    877
  • Win / Loss
  • Num Months Winners
    17
  • Age
  • Num Months filled monthly returns table
    202
  • Win / Loss
  • # Losers
    122
  • % Winners
    48.1%
  • Frequency
  • Avg Position Time (mins)
    5785.57
  • Avg Position Time (hrs)
    96.43
  • Avg Trade Length
    4.0 days
  • Last Trade Ago
    5943
  • Regression
  • Alpha
    -0.01
  • Beta
    -0.00
  • Treynor Index
    2.93
  • Maximum Adverse Excursion (MAE)
  • MAE:PL (avg, all trades)
    -2.57
  • MAE:Equity, average, all trades
    0.07
  • Avg(MAE) / Avg(PL) - All trades
    -203.662
  • MAE:Equity, losing trades only, 95th Percentile Value for this strat
    -
  • MAE:Equity, win trades only, 95th Percentile Value for this strat
    -
  • MAE:PL - Losing Trades - this strat Percentile of All Strats
    98.48
  • MAE:PL - Winning Trades - this strat Percentile of All Strats
    98.44
  • MAE:Equity, 95th Percentile Value for this strat
    0.00
  • MAE:PL (avg, winning trades)
    -
  • MAE:PL - worst single value for strategy
    -
  • MAE:Equity, average, winning trades
    0.04
  • MAE:Equity, average, losing trades
    0.10
  • MAE:PL (avg, losing trades)
    -
  • Avg(MAE) / Avg(PL) - Winning trades
    11.262
  • Avg(MAE) / Avg(PL) - Losing trades
    -30.240
  • Hold-and-Hope Ratio
    -0.005
  • Analysis based on DAILY values, full history
  • RATIO STATISTICS
  • Ratio statistics of excess return rates
  • Statistics related to linear regression on benchmark
  • a (intercept, estimate of alpha)
    -0.01100
  • Analysis based on DAILY values, last 6 months only
  • Ratio statistics of excess log return rates
  • VAR (95 Confidence Intrvl)
    0.00700
  • DRAW DOWN STATISTICS
  • Risk estimates based on draw downs (based on Extreme Value T
  • assuming Pareto losses only (using partial moments from Sortino statistics)
  • Max Equity Drawdown (num days)
    49
  • Last 4 Months - Pcnt Negative
    n/a

Strategy Description

Summary Statistics

Strategy began
2009-09-08
Suggested Minimum Capital
$265,700
# Trades
235
# Profitable
113
% Profitable
48.1%
Net Dividends
Correlation S&P500
-0.016
Sharpe Ratio
-0.89
Sortino Ratio
-1.27
Beta
-0.00
Alpha
-0.01

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