Loading historical trade record for Futures Trader Daily...


Futures Trader Daily




Hypothetical Monthly Returns (includes typical commissions and system fees)

 JanFebMarAprMayJunJulAugSepOctNovDec
2010                                                        +8.0%+32.4%+31.5%+28.2%
2011+0.3%+8.0%(3.3%)+18.6%(4.1%)(0.8%)+1.6%+1.6%+3.7%(15.4%)(12.1%)+2.3%
2012(10.1%)+15.9%(6.8%)+1.8%+25.4%(3.5%)+19.2%(3.7%)(11.4%)(14.3%)(16.9%)(1.9%)
2013+5.0%(13%)+2.0%+3.9%(4.2%)                                          
There is a substantial risk of loss when trading futures, forex, stocks, or options. Hide this

Loading Chart...
Show chart:  Standard  |  Monte Carlo
Technical Analysis:  Moving Average daysX

Instruments Futures
Strategies Market timing
System started 9/8/2010 (33 months ago)
System developer David Aronow
(Last login to C2: 5/22/13 21:46)
C2 Score: 998

Vendor has created 3 other systems. Show
The name of this system has been changed 1 time. Show



Recently Closed Trades

CSVDetails


System creator requested that closed trades data below be delayed by 12 hours.

Hypothetical Trading Results
Opened ETB/S#Symbol PriceClosedPriceRiskP/L
5/10/13 13:25 BUY 5 @RSN3 Canola 617 5/2314:14 640.50 Low $2,213
5/22/13 9:36 SELL 3 @RRN3 Rough Rice 15.150 5/2310:31 15.495 Normal ($2,112)
5/17/13 11:44 BUY 1 @SMN3 SOYBEAN MEAL 419.0 5/229:30 435.0 Low $1,586
5/9/13 14:58 SELL 1 @YGM3 Mini Gold NYSE Liffe 1454.40 5/2012:05 1389.20 Low $2,151
5/7/13 2:40 SELL 1 @YIN3 Mini Silver NYSE Liffe 23.56 5/2012:04 22.77 Low $777
5/15/13 3:33 SELL 1 QPLN3 PLATINUM 1491.50 5/2012:04 1491.50 Low ($14)
5/15/13 10:30 SELL 1 QRBN3 RBOB Gasoline 2.7944 5/179:04 2.9038 Normal ($4,609)
5/7/13 11:24 SELL 4 QWQ3 Liffe Sugar White 491.10 5/175:36 479.70 Low $2,224
5/10/13 10:38 SELL 2 @BON3 SOYBEAN OIL 48.75 5/1313:09 49.84 Low ($1,336)
5/7/13 8:06 SELL 4 LRCN3 Coffee Robusta Liffe 2003 5/98:54 2020 Low ($736)
5/6/13 21:09 SELL 1 QPAM3 PALLADIUM 691.30 5/810:56 693.80 Low ($264)
5/7/13 2:49 SELL 1 @YGM3 Mini Gold NYSE Liffe 1457.50 5/88:17 1468.50 Low ($379)
4/28/13 21:00 BUY 5 @RSN3 Canola 620 5/710:31 590.90 Normal ($2,964)
3/27/13 16:31 BUY 5 @TUM3 US T-NOTE 2 YR 110 30/128 5/310:07 110 38/128 Low $555
4/26/13 5:26 BUY 3 @TYM3 US T-NOTE 10 YR 133 16/64 5/38:30 133 25/64 Low $380

<< More recent
Less  |  More


Statistics

Analytics  
All Statistics Based on Hypothetical Results
Trades1,153
# Profitable512 (44.4%)
# months tracked33
Profitable months18 (54.5%)
Avg trade duration5.3 days
Annual return (compounded)40.9%
Average win$1,218
Average loss$882
Profit factor1.1:1
Max peak-to-valley drawdown (historical)42.08%
drawdown periodJuly 23, 2012 to Jan 14, 2013
Correlation w/ S&P-0.038
Sharpe ratio1.029
Keep after worst-case slippage 53.8%
Probabilities of future account loss  
Chance of 10% account loss55.5%
Chance of 20% account loss27.0%
Chance of 30% account loss11.5%
Chance of 50% account loss0.0%
Chance of 100% account loss0.0%
Average Profit to Drawdown (APD)0.03
Average P/L per unit traded$102.30


Reviews


 
Oct 10, 2011 from AutoTrader

The last review was too harsh. The system might be at a crossroads though. PL has fallen to 1:3 and sharpe has fallen below 3. The system is essentially flat since April. Over the last several months the system has done a lot of churning with not much result. I just dont know....

 
Oct 7, 2011 from AutoTrader

I lasted about 7 days and that is all I could take. Every trade began as a negative trade and of those, I believe that one actually turned out to be a mildly profitable trade. He keeps positions over the weekend which in my opinion, is not a good idea, He trades on big news days or has positions outstanding on those days which in my opinion, is not a good idea. I would not use this system at all. I suppose for not so faint of heart, it is OK, but not for me.

Rebuttal, posted on Oct 8, 2011 by system developer:

One of the best features of C2 is that everything in a system's history is visible for all to see. You don't need to pay up front to see a system's track record -- it's all public information. Your comment that you do not think my system should hold over weekends or trade on news days means you did not properly research my system before subscribing and placing your money at risk. Holding over weekends and trading on news days turned out poorly over the last week, but there are dozens of times it has not, and judging a system that more than doubled in a year based on one losing week tells me that you have unreasonable expectations for my system and would continue to be disappointed no matter what kinds of returns there are going forward. I have done my best in comments and forum postings to maintain reasonable expectations and make it clear my system is NOT the holy grail, but if people choose to ignore that and expect every trade to be a winner there's unfortunately nothing I can do.

Looking at the historical equity chart it's very clear this system can encounter a large amount of volatility periodically, so again this should not come as a surprise. I wish you success in trading at C2 or elsewhere but please do yourself a favor and do more research before risking your hard earned money so you know what you are getting yourself into.

Regards,
Dave
 
May 16, 2011 from AutoTrader

Although a fairly consistent strategy, the developer seems to be more worried about collecting $349 from his subscribers every month rather than limit the number of subscribers to reduce slippage on fills.

Rebuttal, posted on May 17, 2011 by system developer:

Please see the discussion forum for a discussion of the review:
http://collective2.com/cgi-perl/board.mpl?want=listmsgs&boardid=54778971&threadhilite=9979&message=61482631#msgdirect61482631
 
Nov 15, 2010 from AutoTrader

There are circumstances when it can be justified to start trading a new system even if it has only a short history on C2, for example, when the developer has been trading the system or a substantially similar system for several years with good results in his own account and provides good documentation as in this case. Confidence is further enhanced by knowing that he uses the same signals he sends to C2 for his own and family accounts. In addition, support for any questions and inquiries has been excellent. Naturally, the system has benefitted from the recent volatility of commodity prices but still has avoided sharp give-backs of the profits and has outperformed any other commodity system during its history on C2.

System Description

Futures Trader Daily is designed to be traded with a $100,000 account. Despite the different "model account" equity, trade signals are still entered assuming a $100K account so that new subscribers can trade without scaling down. You do NOT need $200K to trade this system.

If you are looking for a smaller allocation, Futures Trader Daily Mini is designed for a $50K account and uses the same signals as this system (with modifications to position sizing for the smaller account).

Futures Trader Daily executes daily trades, meaning there will be at most one signal per day per futures contract. Trades will normally last from 2 days up to 7 days, although highly profitable trades may last longer than 7 days. Additionally a few contracts (such as short-term bonds) that tend to move very slowly may have trades lasting weeks (even months in some cases).

Position sizes assume an initial account size of $100,000 to trade Futures Trader Daily. Even though the model account equity is higher trades are still entered assuming $100,000 account size.

Futures Trader Daily alerts will be entered generally between 8 and 9 PM EST and will often be active immediately (for composite contracts). Trades are entered from my trade tracking application and are parked for 3 minutes to allow manual review of the trades to make sure they are correct (better safe than sorry).

Given that there may be as many as 20-25 alerts on a given day (although usually around 10-15) this system is mainly geared towards autotrading. The orders can be entered manually and basically just once per day but managing 15 orders a day can be tedious.

Futures Trader Daily uses stops to enter and exit trades. EVERY trade is exited via a stop (except for rare cases involving rollovers or other external events). This means ALL winning trades will give back some of their profits before they exit. Remember the goal is to capture as much profit as possible but also keep risk down.

Historical trading information on futures trader daily is available from:
http://aronowsoftware.com/futurestraderdaily.pdf
(3.5 MB PDF)

The following contracts are traded on a weekly basis, entered via GTC orders and will not have an exit stop entered until the week following entry. The $5K standard stop loss always applies however.

British Pound, Swiss Franc, Japanese Yen, NYBOT Cocoa, Liffe Cocoa, Liffe Euribor, Liffe Euroswiss, Five Year Bond

Please PM me if you have more questions.

- This System Description text was submitted by the creator of this strategy. Collective2 verifies only trading signals and hypothetical trading results. We have not verified that this text above is an accurate system description. Remember there is a substantial risk of loss in trading. Past performance is not indicative of future results. Do not trade with money you cannot afford to lose.

Find System by Name

Wait

Advanced


Subscribe to System

Seven-day free trial, then $149 per month Details

There is a free trial period of 7 days before you are charged. You may cancel at any time before this (we send you an email at least a day before, to remind you, so there are no surprises.)

Then, after the trial, you will be charged $149 per month. (That is, we will charge you every 30 days - not when the month name on the calendar changes. So it's okay to sign up towards the end of a calendar month. You'll still get a full 30 days.)



Or... Want to try AutoTrading without risking real money? Trade this with $100,000 simulated dollars, for free.

 

Overview

X
Paid Subscribers
This strategy has current paid subscribers.
Futures Trader Daily seeks to capture short term moves in futures over a period of 2-7 days. Trades are entered every night for the following session.
read more...

- This text was submitted by the creator of this strategy. Collective2 verifies only trading signals and hypothetical trading results. We have not verified the Overview text above. Remember there is a substantial risk of loss in trading. Past performance is not indicative of future results. Do not trade with money you cannot afford to lose.

Model Account Status

Started$37,717
Buy Power$79,636
Cash$1
Equity$1
Cumulative $$58,019
Total System Equity$95,736
Margined$1
Open P/L$524
System vendor has delayed data by 12 hours for non-subs.


System Forum

All
Is this system ever... be profitable again?
William Shepler at 10/27/11 17:26ET

Anh, Sorry to hear about your additional losses. I was afraid that the losing streak would continue which is why I pulled the plug when I...

Is this system ever... be profitable again?
William Shepler at 10/24/11 11:56ET

Anh, Yes just turned off auto-trading and let it close out everything. I felt like after giving the system 9 months to do something posit...

Is this system ever... be profitable again?
Robert Petrosino at 10/21/11 1:03ET

I am seeing some interesting criticism here but I do not see any useful suggestions. Does anyone think the system should be re-designed ever...

Is this system ever... be profitable again?
William Shepler at 10/20/11 23:10ET

You bring up a very good point. It is much easier to deal with the big drawdowns if it is giving back some of gains AND if the drawdowns are...

Crowd Opinion

Viewed 44,535 times
System Notebooks 68 people
System Notebook Comments 8 See Latest