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| Subject: | Are there any signals sent before they are filled? |
| Posted by: | Ottmar Frank |
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| When: | 7/05/07 (10:07) | |
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| | I wonder if I have missunderstood the procedures at VN Forex Club:
According to systems descriptions signals should be sent between 8-10 a.m. Central Time. But when I receive the alert, it says "filled" and I ususally have no chance to get a fill at near same price. Is there no separate alert signal only?
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| Subject: | Are there any signals sent before they are filled? |
| Posted by: | Si Nguyen (Admin) ( C2 Score: 876 ) |
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| When: | 7/05/07 (11:41) | |
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| | In response to post by Ottmar Frank of 7/05/07 (10:07) I wonder if I have missunderstood the procedures at VN Forex Club:
According to systems descriptions signals should be sent between 8-10 a.m. Central Time. But when I receive the alert, it says "filled" and I ususally have no chance to get a fill at near same price. Is there no separate alert signal only?
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Hi Ottmar,
Sorry about the misunderstood in the description of the system! It's says, "Our signal alerts are usually send around 8:00am-10:00am Central time USA and we usually look at the charts, read news and send out update (open more positions and/or close open position sooner) every 4-5 hours after that if necessary." and that is my normal schedule for this business. However, I woke up earlier this morning for the GBP Interest Rate Statement report because I wanted to fade this report after it came out and it did work very well for me and many of my clients :)
Most of the trades in this system are market orders so it's best to Auto Trade the system. Further more, Auto Trade the system can also save your from "double-guessing" the system. Even the best system in the world won't help you if you "double-guessing" the system and/or don't have the discipline to follow every trade in the system.
Regards,
Si Nguyen
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| Subject: | Are there any signals sent before they are filled? |
| Posted by: | Pal Anand ( C2 Score: 988) |
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| When: | 7/05/07 (14:24) | |
| Systems: | Direxion (FAS/FAZ), Direxion BGU/BGZ, Direxion DRN/DRV, Direxion DZK/DPK, Direxion EDC/EDZ, Direxion ERX/ERY, Direxion LBJ/LHB, Direxion MWJ/MWN, Direxion NUGT/DUST, Direxion SOXL/SOXS, Direxion TMF/TMV, Direxion TNA/TZA, Extreme Stocks, ProShares AGQ/ZSL, Proshares TQQQ/SQQQ, ProShares UCO/SCO, ProShares UGL/GLL, Proshares UPRO/SPXU, ProShares UUP/UDN, ProShares UVXY, ProShares UYM/SMN, ProShares XPP/FXP, System 78433109, System 1200737, System 13513226, System 14747274, System 14900604, System 17333270, System 18570303, System 21001636, System 22811602, System 25126348, System 25286922, System 25480083, System 26583686, System 26874100, System 28959109, System 30070387, System 30091398, System 30092309, System 32171590, System 33686814, System 36312421, System 39940733, System 49372097, System 51623361, System 56204818, System 59614452, System 62659351, System 63709256, System 64327252, System 64862505, System 65149161, System 65149202, System 66082786, System 69788609, System 69789319, System 74827691, System 76000954, System 76001024, System18339738 |
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| | In response to post by Si Nguyen of 7/05/07 (11:41) Hi Ottmar,
Sorry about the misunderstood in the description of the system! It's says, "Our signal alerts...
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>Further more, Auto Trade the system can also save your from "double-guessing" the system. Even the best system in the world won't help you if you "double-guessing" the system and/or don't have the discipline to follow every trade in the system.
I disagree. If a man is to be first-handed, he must begin by reaching independent conclusions. Then he must accept the responsibility of implementing his conclusions in practice, i.e., he must pay his own way. He must be self-reliant in the mental world and in the physical world. |
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| Subject: | Are there any signals sent before they are filled? |
| Posted by: | Si Nguyen (Admin) ( C2 Score: 876) |
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| When: | 7/05/07 (15:12) | |
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| | In response to post by Pal Anand of 7/05/07 (14:24) >Further more, Auto Trade the system can also save your from "double-guessing" the system. Even the best system in the world won't help you if you "double-guessing" the system and/or don't have the discipline to follow every trade in the system....
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Thanks for your comment! Everything in this world have two sides. During my trading career, I noticed that most of the time I say or do something about this business, more than 60% of the traders disagree and even angry while the other 20% is almost certain to love me. And guess what? I don't need 20% the traders in the world loving me in order to succeed in this business. One-tenth of one percent will do just fine,
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| Subject: | Are there any signals sent before they are filled? |
| Posted by: | Pal Anand ( C2 Score: 988) |
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| When: | 7/05/07 (15:35) | |
| Systems: | Direxion (FAS/FAZ), Direxion BGU/BGZ, Direxion DRN/DRV, Direxion DZK/DPK, Direxion EDC/EDZ, Direxion ERX/ERY, Direxion LBJ/LHB, Direxion MWJ/MWN, Direxion NUGT/DUST, Direxion SOXL/SOXS, Direxion TMF/TMV, Direxion TNA/TZA, Extreme Stocks, ProShares AGQ/ZSL, Proshares TQQQ/SQQQ, ProShares UCO/SCO, ProShares UGL/GLL, Proshares UPRO/SPXU, ProShares UUP/UDN, ProShares UVXY, ProShares UYM/SMN, ProShares XPP/FXP, System 78433109, System 1200737, System 13513226, System 14747274, System 14900604, System 17333270, System 18570303, System 21001636, System 22811602, System 25126348, System 25286922, System 25480083, System 26583686, System 26874100, System 28959109, System 30070387, System 30091398, System 30092309, System 32171590, System 33686814, System 36312421, System 39940733, System 49372097, System 51623361, System 56204818, System 59614452, System 62659351, System 63709256, System 64327252, System 64862505, System 65149161, System 65149202, System 66082786, System 69788609, System 69789319, System 74827691, System 76000954, System 76001024, System18339738 |
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| | In response to post by Si Nguyen of 7/05/07 (15:12) Thanks for your comment! Everything in this world have two sides. During my trading career, I noticed that most of the...
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>I don't need 20% the traders in the world loving me in order to succeed in this business. One-tenth of one percent will do just fine,
As one creator to another creator, I again disagree. All you need is just yourself (I assume that you have given your creation some form of existence in physical reality by implementing it in practice...) Theory is related to practice as mind is to body. In this case, the first apart from the second is purposeless; the second apart from the first is impossible. |
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| Subject: | Are there any signals sent before they are filled? |
| Posted by: | Sam Cook ( C2 Score: 276) |
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| When: | 7/05/07 (18:10) | |
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| | In response to post by Pal Anand of 7/05/07 (15:35) >I don't need 20% the traders in the world loving me in order to succeed in this business. One-tenth of one percent will do just fine,
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> As one creator to another creator, I again disagree.
Good! 80% of your systems have gone bankrupt.
The others have had massive untradeable drawdowns. Over the years
I have learned you can improve your trading by paying attention to
even the most horrendous traders (like you): then don't do what they
do. Thanks for posting! It is always educational...as are your systems. |
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| Subject: | Are there any signals sent before they are filled? |
| Posted by: | Pal Anand ( C2 Score: 988) |
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| When: | 7/05/07 (18:46) | |
| Systems: | Direxion (FAS/FAZ), Direxion BGU/BGZ, Direxion DRN/DRV, Direxion DZK/DPK, Direxion EDC/EDZ, Direxion ERX/ERY, Direxion LBJ/LHB, Direxion MWJ/MWN, Direxion NUGT/DUST, Direxion SOXL/SOXS, Direxion TMF/TMV, Direxion TNA/TZA, Extreme Stocks, ProShares AGQ/ZSL, Proshares TQQQ/SQQQ, ProShares UCO/SCO, ProShares UGL/GLL, Proshares UPRO/SPXU, ProShares UUP/UDN, ProShares UVXY, ProShares UYM/SMN, ProShares XPP/FXP, System 78433109, System 1200737, System 13513226, System 14747274, System 14900604, System 17333270, System 18570303, System 21001636, System 22811602, System 25126348, System 25286922, System 25480083, System 26583686, System 26874100, System 28959109, System 30070387, System 30091398, System 30092309, System 32171590, System 33686814, System 36312421, System 39940733, System 49372097, System 51623361, System 56204818, System 59614452, System 62659351, System 63709256, System 64327252, System 64862505, System 65149161, System 65149202, System 66082786, System 69788609, System 69789319, System 74827691, System 76000954, System 76001024, System18339738 |
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| | In response to post by Sam Cook of 7/05/07 (18:10) > As one creator to another creator, I again disagree.
Good! 80% of your systems have gone bankrupt.
The others have had massive untradeable drawdowns. Over the years
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| Subject: | Are there any signals sent before they are filled? |
| Posted by: | Index ( C2 Score: 975) |
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| When: | 7/05/07 (19:52) | |
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| | In response to post by Pal Anand of 7/05/07 (18:46) You should stop now, Sam. You are a miserable, pathetic, loser (whose only system in existence is "The Truth"...
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"As one creator to another creator, I again disagree. "
You mean, as one catastrophe to another creator, I think. Creators don't pose as others (Brian Milloy)
"You are a miserable, pathetic, loser"
The nearest thing to describe Palsun, is "has to look up, to see the bottom of the barrel." |
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| Subject: | Are there any signals sent before they are filled? |
| Posted by: | Pal Anand ( C2 Score: 988) |
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| When: | 7/05/07 (19:58) | |
| Systems: | Direxion (FAS/FAZ), Direxion BGU/BGZ, Direxion DRN/DRV, Direxion DZK/DPK, Direxion EDC/EDZ, Direxion ERX/ERY, Direxion LBJ/LHB, Direxion MWJ/MWN, Direxion NUGT/DUST, Direxion SOXL/SOXS, Direxion TMF/TMV, Direxion TNA/TZA, Extreme Stocks, ProShares AGQ/ZSL, Proshares TQQQ/SQQQ, ProShares UCO/SCO, ProShares UGL/GLL, Proshares UPRO/SPXU, ProShares UUP/UDN, ProShares UVXY, ProShares UYM/SMN, ProShares XPP/FXP, System 78433109, System 1200737, System 13513226, System 14747274, System 14900604, System 17333270, System 18570303, System 21001636, System 22811602, System 25126348, System 25286922, System 25480083, System 26583686, System 26874100, System 28959109, System 30070387, System 30091398, System 30092309, System 32171590, System 33686814, System 36312421, System 39940733, System 49372097, System 51623361, System 56204818, System 59614452, System 62659351, System 63709256, System 64327252, System 64862505, System 65149161, System 65149202, System 66082786, System 69788609, System 69789319, System 74827691, System 76000954, System 76001024, System18339738 |
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| | In response to post by Index of 7/05/07 (19:52) "As one creator to another creator, I again disagree. "
You mean, as one catastrophe to another creator, I think. Creators don't pose as others (Brian Milloy)
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Dear Ross, all you know is destroying: the morality of death worship. You are the same as Dear Sam, Ross, yet another parasite posing as a "Market Wizard"... |
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| Subject: | Are there any signals sent before they are filled? |
| Posted by: | Index ( C2 Score: 975) |
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| When: | 7/05/07 (20:04) | |
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| | In response to post by Pal Anand of 7/05/07 (19:58) Dear Ross, all you know is destroying: the morality of death worship. You are the same as Dear Sam, Ross, yet another parasite posing as a "Market Wizard"...
as opposed to someone who runs his own sideshow carnival of systems, and poses as others. |
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| Subject: | Are there any signals sent before they are filled? |
| Posted by: | Pal Anand ( C2 Score: 988) |
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| When: | 7/05/07 (20:14) | |
| Systems: | Direxion (FAS/FAZ), Direxion BGU/BGZ, Direxion DRN/DRV, Direxion DZK/DPK, Direxion EDC/EDZ, Direxion ERX/ERY, Direxion LBJ/LHB, Direxion MWJ/MWN, Direxion NUGT/DUST, Direxion SOXL/SOXS, Direxion TMF/TMV, Direxion TNA/TZA, Extreme Stocks, ProShares AGQ/ZSL, Proshares TQQQ/SQQQ, ProShares UCO/SCO, ProShares UGL/GLL, Proshares UPRO/SPXU, ProShares UUP/UDN, ProShares UVXY, ProShares UYM/SMN, ProShares XPP/FXP, System 78433109, System 1200737, System 13513226, System 14747274, System 14900604, System 17333270, System 18570303, System 21001636, System 22811602, System 25126348, System 25286922, System 25480083, System 26583686, System 26874100, System 28959109, System 30070387, System 30091398, System 30092309, System 32171590, System 33686814, System 36312421, System 39940733, System 49372097, System 51623361, System 56204818, System 59614452, System 62659351, System 63709256, System 64327252, System 64862505, System 65149161, System 65149202, System 66082786, System 69788609, System 69789319, System 74827691, System 76000954, System 76001024, System18339738 |
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| | In response to post by Index of 7/05/07 (20:04) as opposed to someone who runs his own sideshow carnival of systems, and poses as others.
Somehow you think that being a parasite is better? A parasite, biologically, is a creature that lives on or in an organism of another species. You are worse than a parasite: you are a second-hander which is unique because you have no counterpart in the world of biology. You are a parasite on your own species... |
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| Subject: | Are there any signals sent before they are filled? |
| Posted by: | Index ( C2 Score: 975) |
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| When: | 7/07/07 (14:27) | |
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| | In response to post by Pal Anand of 7/05/07 (20:14) Somehow you think that being a parasite is better? A parasite, biologically, is a creature that lives on or in an organ...
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To Palsun, everyone who disagrees with him is a parasite.
Do you want to discuss someone who poses as others (Brian)? That is called mimicry.
Do you want to discuss someone who labels things as useless because they reflect poorly on his stable of pathetic systems? When you stand alone in an opinion, that is a sad thing...
Do you want to discuss someone who has less trading acumen than a standard beetle? Mr. "a 95% DD does not count until it is realized." You are one of the finest examples of a clueless trader on C2. Have you ever noticed that people rarely ever respond to your posts except in ridicule? And that you are probably the person who responds to your own posts the most?
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| Subject: | Are there any signals sent before they are filled? |
| Posted by: | Gilbert Arevalo ( C2 Score: 995) |
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| When: | 7/07/07 (14:57) | |
| Systems: | ES Timer, Small Cap (3X) Timer, Small Cap (5X) Turbo Timer, UltraPro (3X) QQQ Timer, UltraPro (3X) SPX Timer, 29417555, 29594253, KC Covered Call Fund, KC E-mini (closed), KC Elite (closed), KC Futures (closed), KC Hedge (closed Dec 2010), KC Leader (closed), KC Legacy (closed), KC Partners (closed), KC QLD/QID (closed Feb 2011), KC's ES Madness-old, KC's NQ Extreme-old, KC's NQ Madness (closed), KC's QLD/QID Madness (closed), Kingdom Capital Funds |
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| | In response to post by Index of 7/07/07 (14:27) To Palsun, everyone who disagrees with him is a parasite.
Do you want to discuss someone who poses as others (Brian)? That is called mimicry....
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Who cares what you think (only you) so why not go away and get a life?
We are working on our systems and you are languishing around trying to get a reaction.
Your words are hollow and waste our (vendor) time.
Stop writing about each emotional reaction you have to our daily work to point out flaws or errors and go get productive on your own. Waste your own time not mine or ours, you pariah! Gilbert
GO AWAY GO AWAY GO AWAY GO AWAY GO AWAY GO AWAY GO AWAY - don't reply, don't reply, don't reply, don't reply - GO AWAY GO AWAY GO AWAY I don't want to keep seeing "Ross replies" any more on my thread or see you banter your BS all about - GO AWAY, GO AWAY, GO AWAY, don't reply DON'T REPLY - GET A LIFE of your own GO AWAY don't let me see another Ross reply They are USELESS GO AWAY GO AWAY Ross that means you!! GO AWAY.
(I will save this message and keep posting it until you GO AWAY). |
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| Subject: | Are there any signals sent before they are filled? |
| Posted by: | Pal Anand ( C2 Score: 988) |
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| When: | 7/08/07 (17:30) | |
| Systems: | Direxion (FAS/FAZ), Direxion BGU/BGZ, Direxion DRN/DRV, Direxion DZK/DPK, Direxion EDC/EDZ, Direxion ERX/ERY, Direxion LBJ/LHB, Direxion MWJ/MWN, Direxion NUGT/DUST, Direxion SOXL/SOXS, Direxion TMF/TMV, Direxion TNA/TZA, Extreme Stocks, ProShares AGQ/ZSL, Proshares TQQQ/SQQQ, ProShares UCO/SCO, ProShares UGL/GLL, Proshares UPRO/SPXU, ProShares UUP/UDN, ProShares UVXY, ProShares UYM/SMN, ProShares XPP/FXP, System 78433109, System 1200737, System 13513226, System 14747274, System 14900604, System 17333270, System 18570303, System 21001636, System 22811602, System 25126348, System 25286922, System 25480083, System 26583686, System 26874100, System 28959109, System 30070387, System 30091398, System 30092309, System 32171590, System 33686814, System 36312421, System 39940733, System 49372097, System 51623361, System 56204818, System 59614452, System 62659351, System 63709256, System 64327252, System 64862505, System 65149161, System 65149202, System 66082786, System 69788609, System 69789319, System 74827691, System 76000954, System 76001024, System18339738 |
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| | In response to post by Index of 7/07/07 (14:27) To Palsun, everyone who disagrees with him is a parasite.
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Dear Ross is a man who takes pride in the "independence" of his feelings, regardless of the reasons behind them. He is dominated by one feeling in particular: hostility. His notion of being independent in the realm of ideas is to affront people by rejecting whatever they believe simply because they believe it. By definition, such a person is unconcerned with logic or reality; his ideas are shaped entirely by other men - in reverse. This kind of mentality, which poses as being courageous, represents an especially ugly form of dependence. |
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| Subject: | Are there any signals sent before they are filled? |
| Posted by: | Index ( C2 Score: 975) |
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| Subject: | Are there any signals sent before they are filled? |
| Posted by: | Pal Anand ( C2 Score: 988) |
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| When: | 7/09/07 (6:20) | |
| Systems: | Direxion (FAS/FAZ), Direxion BGU/BGZ, Direxion DRN/DRV, Direxion DZK/DPK, Direxion EDC/EDZ, Direxion ERX/ERY, Direxion LBJ/LHB, Direxion MWJ/MWN, Direxion NUGT/DUST, Direxion SOXL/SOXS, Direxion TMF/TMV, Direxion TNA/TZA, Extreme Stocks, ProShares AGQ/ZSL, Proshares TQQQ/SQQQ, ProShares UCO/SCO, ProShares UGL/GLL, Proshares UPRO/SPXU, ProShares UUP/UDN, ProShares UVXY, ProShares UYM/SMN, ProShares XPP/FXP, System 78433109, System 1200737, System 13513226, System 14747274, System 14900604, System 17333270, System 18570303, System 21001636, System 22811602, System 25126348, System 25286922, System 25480083, System 26583686, System 26874100, System 28959109, System 30070387, System 30091398, System 30092309, System 32171590, System 33686814, System 36312421, System 39940733, System 49372097, System 51623361, System 56204818, System 59614452, System 62659351, System 63709256, System 64327252, System 64862505, System 65149161, System 65149202, System 66082786, System 69788609, System 69789319, System 74827691, System 76000954, System 76001024, System18339738 |
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| | In response to post by Index of 7/08/07 (20:17) I see you xeroxed your post in 3 places. At least try to be a little original
It is posted 3 times because that way when you read it, it may get into your thick skull. But, looking at your other posts, it is readily apparent, it hasn't...Ever hear the term, bonehead... |
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| Subject: | Are there any signals sent before they are filled? |
| Posted by: | Index ( C2 Score: 975) |
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| | In response to post by Pal Anand of 7/09/07 (6:20) It is posted 3 times because that way when you read it, it may get into your thick skull. But, looking at your other posts, it is readily apparent, it hasn't...Ever hear the term, bonehead...
"Ever hear the term, bonehead..."
Yes, one who hides behind multiple personalities (aka Brian M), and has no concept of trading (multiple example, but such as Palsun thinking that a 95% drawdown is meaningless until actually realized.) You are such a ripe field of bizarre ideas, I suppose you are the poster bonehead.
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