| |
| Subject: | Why do we need TB or SM? |
| Posted by: | Panu Haaramo ( C2 Score: 710 ) |
 |
| |
|
| When: | 5/06/06 (7:44) | |
| Systems: | |
|
|
|
|
| | Why can't C2 direct the orders directly to the broker? Now there is one additional point of failure which I would like to get rid of. |
|
| | |
|
| |
|
| |
| Subject: | Why do we need TB or SM? |
| Posted by: | Index ( C2 Score: 975) |
|
| |
|
| When: | 5/06/06 (10:31) | |
| Systems: | |
|
|
|
|
| | In response to post by Panu Haaramo of 5/06/06 (7:44) Why can't C2 direct the orders directly to the broker? Now there is one additional point of failure which I would like to get rid of.
when I talked to my broker about this, they said the same thing. Having extra software and my system running all day at work makes this much harder, more expensive, less reliable and slows down the process
Is there a way just to have the signal pass on to a broker (since it comes to my email?) |
|
| | |
|
| |
|
| |
|
|
|
| | In response to post by Index of 5/06/06 (10:31) when I talked to my broker about this, they said the same thing. Having extra software and my system running all day at work makes this much harder, more expensive, less reliable and slows down the process
...
See entire
C2 is today working with various brokers to implement direct-to-broker functionality. Of course, brokers need to agree to this. Any brokers interested in this should contact me. |
|
| | |
|
| |
|
| |
| Subject: | Why do we need TB or SM? |
| Posted by: | Index ( C2 Score: 975) |
|
| |
|
| When: | 5/06/06 (14:32) | |
| Systems: | |
|
|
|
|
| | In response to post by Matthew Klein of 5/06/06 (11:32) C2 is today working with various brokers to implement direct-to-broker functionality. Of course, brokers need to agree to this. Any brokers interested in this should contact me.
Great, Matthew
Having extra things on the pathway only increases the likelihood of failure. Simplicity, especially for fast systems, is appreciated.
I will talk to my broker about linkages - he expressed a way he would like to receive signals, and I will investigate the interest...
Ross |
|
| | |
|
| |
|
| |
| Subject: | Why do we need TB or SM? |
| Posted by: | Hans Hansen ( C2 Score: 982) |
|
| |
|
| When: | 5/06/06 (16:05) | |
| Systems: | |
|
|
|
|
| | In response to post by Index of 5/06/06 (14:32) Great, Matthew
Having extra things on the pathway only increases the likelihood of failure. Simplicity, especially for fast systems, is appreciated....
See entire
If you receive your trade signals via email, couldn't you simply automatically forward them to the broker? This might be a bit slow for daytrading systems, but for those not needing split second fills it should be OK.
Hans. |
|
| | |
|
| |
|
| |
| Subject: | Why do we need TB or SM? |
| Posted by: | Panu Haaramo ( C2 Score: 710) |
|
| |
|
| When: | 5/07/06 (3:32) | |
| Systems: | |
|
|
|
|
| | In response to post by Matthew Klein of 5/06/06 (11:32) C2 is today working with various brokers to implement direct-to-broker functionality. Of course, brokers need to agree to this. Any brokers interested in this should contact me.
Thank you Matthew! I would like this to work with IB. |
|
| | |
|
| |
|
| |
| Subject: | Why do we need TB or SM? |
| Posted by: | Index ( C2 Score: 975) |
|
| |
|
| When: | 5/07/06 (10:16) | |
| Systems: | |
|
|
|
|
| | In response to post by Hans Hansen of 5/06/06 (16:05) If you receive your trade signals via email, couldn't you simply automatically forward them to the broker? This might be a bit slow for daytrading systems, but for those not needing split second fills it should be OK....
See entire
There is a significant difference between commissions and execution time for trades I place myself (electronically) and trades needing any kind of broker assist (reading/manipulating my email).
Also, just forwarding the emails wouldn't seem to allow any kind of personal trade manipulation. If the advisory uses ten times as much stock or eminis as me (or 5 times fewer), or trades S&P futures when I trade SPDRS... This is the kind of processing TB does. I dont want really complicated processing, but I do want to control the instrument, the quantity, and the StopLoss/Profit Objective
My broker mentioned some kind of interface to receive trades, but I do not think simple auto-forwarding of my emails is what they had in mind...
I would be happy to be wrong? Did you have something in mind? |
|
| | |
|
| |
|
| |
|
|
|
| | In response to post by Panu Haaramo of 5/07/06 (3:32) Thank you Matthew! I would like this to work with IB.
Don't get your hopes up with IB: they are very independant and are not into system trading.
The only way to interface with IB is through 3rd party applications like TradeBullet.
Francis |
|
| | |
|
| |
|
| |
|
|
|
| | In response to post by Index of 5/07/06 (10:16) There is a significant difference between commissions and execution time for trades I place myself (electronically) and trades needing any kind of broker assist (reading/manipulating my email)....
See entire
Ross,
You are correct..
Francis |
|
| | |
|
| |
|
| |
|
|
|
| | In response to post by Index of 5/07/06 (10:16) There is a significant difference between commissions and execution time for trades I place myself (electronically) and trades needing any kind of broker assist (reading/manipulating my email)....
See entire
C2 has developed special software solely for brokers. It is called C2Connect, and any registered broker can contact me to view an online demo. C2Connect allows brokers to trade C2 systems on behalf of clients, to customize order quantities for each client, and to track fills and orders. Also, it supports Percentage Allocation Method (PAM) accounts, which allows brokers to place single trades for large client groups.
Again, if you are a registered broker (securities, futures, or Forex), please contact me to arrange a demonstration. If you are a customer of a broker that might be interested in this, please be sure to let him or her know about C2Connect.
- Matthew (matthew at http://collective2.com) |
|
| | |
|
| |
|
| |
| Subject: | Why do we need TB or SM? |
| Posted by: | Hans Hansen ( C2 Score: 982) |
|
| |
|
| When: | 5/07/06 (16:08) | |
| Systems: | |
|
|
|
|
| | In response to post by Index of 5/07/06 (10:16) There is a significant difference between commissions and execution time for trades I place myself (electronically) and trades needing any kind of broker assist (reading/manipulating my email)....
See entire
"I would be happy to be wrong? Did you have something in mind?"
No, I understand. However, I do maintain an account with a "full service discount broker" (is that an oxymoron?) to execute unusual requests. For example I can give an order like: "Buy 1 @ESM6 at market if the cash index reaches 1310". Or he will execute option trades based upon price movement of the underlying. A broker like this should be able to "customize" trade orders emailed from C2. Some of these brokers will work for $30-$35, which I realize is way too high for short term/daytrading. But, yes, like the rest of you, I do like the commissions offered by the online brokers and tend to use them mostly. |
|
| | |
|
| |
|
| |
| Subject: | Why do we need TB or SM? |
| Posted by: | Reinhard Schu ( C2 Score: 958) |
|
| |
|
| When: | 5/08/06 (5:23) | |
| Systems: | |
|
|
|
|
| | In response to post by Panu Haaramo of 5/06/06 (7:44) Why can't C2 direct the orders directly to the broker? Now there is one additional point of failure which I would like to get rid of.
I am working on a direct connection to Oanda for FX trading (see my other post). |
|
| | |
|
| |
|
| |
| Subject: | Why do we need TB or SM? |
| Posted by: | charles curty ( C2 Score: 75) |
|
| |
|
| When: | 5/08/06 (8:02) | |
| Systems: | |
|
|
|
|
| | In response to post by Hans Hansen of 5/07/06 (16:08) "I would be happy to be wrong? Did you have something in mind?"
No, I understand. However, I do maintain an ac...
See entire
To Hans,
I am personally very much interested if you could let me know the name of the broker who accept the order that you mentioned as example : " I can give an order like: "Buy 1 @ESM6 at market if the cash index reaches 1310" because some of my work is based on the cash index. This would greatly simplify part of my trading in my own account.
Do you know if IB accept such orders ?
Regards
Charles |
|
| | |
|
| |
|
| |
| Subject: | Why do we need TB or SM? |
| Posted by: | Hans Hansen ( C2 Score: 982) |
|
| |
|
| When: | 5/08/06 (11:48) | |
| Systems: | |
|
|
|
|
| | In response to post by charles curty of 5/08/06 (8:02) To Hans,
I am personally very much interested if you could let me know the name of the broker who accept the order that you mentioned as example : " I can give an order like: "Buy 1 @ESM6 at market if the cash index reaches 1310" because some of my work is based on the cash index. This would greatly simplify part of my trading in my own account....
See entire
I'm sure IB wouldn't touch such orders. Some of the semi-discount firms like Lind-Waldock have "broker assist" accounts and they might. I noticed on Open eCry's website that they have a broker assisted option. See what they say. But many of the real small "introducing brokers" are hungry for business and generally will do whatever you want. Crown Futures in Fairfield Iowa is very flexible, but somewhat more expensive. |
|
| | |
|
| |
|
| |
| Subject: | Why do we need TB or SM? |
| Posted by: | nipaporn kotkom |
|
| |
|
| When: | 5/08/06 (12:04) | |
|
|
|
|
| | In response to post by Hans Hansen of 5/08/06 (11:48) I'm sure IB wouldn't touch such orders. Some of the semi-discount firms like Lind-Waldock have "broker assist" accounts...
See entire
With IB(interactivebrokers), you can place "conditional" orders.
So the example you have given is "executable" with IB.
Their TWS has many features, which could be very beneficial for your trading.It requires a lot of "reading" and testing before one masters this platform. |
|
| | |
|
| |
|
| |
| Subject: | Why do we need TB or SM? |
| Posted by: | Peter Tufts |
|
| |
|
| When: | 5/08/06 (12:11) | |
|
|
|
|
| | In response to post by Hans Hansen of 5/08/06 (11:48) I'm sure IB wouldn't touch such orders. Some of the semi-discount firms like Lind-Waldock have "broker assist" accounts...
See entire
I am an Introducing Broker...I may be able to help |
|
| | |
|
| |
|
| |
| Subject: | Why do we need TB or SM? |
| Posted by: | charles curty ( C2 Score: 75) |
|
| |
|
| When: | 5/08/06 (17:32) | |
| Systems: | |
|
|
|
|
| | In response to post by Hans Hansen of 5/08/06 (11:48) I'm sure IB wouldn't touch such orders. Some of the semi-discount firms like Lind-Waldock have "broker assist" accounts...
See entire
to Hans,
Thank you for your infos. I will shortly double check with IB.
Other brokers dont really interest me for many reasons.
Not even large discount online brokers. Last year I managed a multi million $ account at Man and they did not even care to pay some interests on the cash and it was not easy to buy T-bills, for obvious reasons.
IB offers top rates on interests without even asking anything.
Regards
Charles |
|
| | |
|
| |
|
| |
| Subject: | Why do we need TB or SM? |
| Posted by: | Geoffrey Lay |
|
| |
|
| When: | 5/25/06 (23:40) | |
|
|
|
|
| | In response to post by Matthew Klein of 5/07/06 (16:03) C2 has developed special software solely for brokers. It is called C2Connect, and any registered broker can contact me to view an online demo. C2Connect allows brokers to trade C2 systems on behalf of clients, to customize order quantities for each client, and to track fills and orders. Also, it supports Percentage Allocation Method (PAM) accounts, which allows brokers to place single trades for large client groups....
See entire
I have a friend that uses http://www.terranovaonline.com and they support a ton of auto trading systems. You may want to visit their site and see if they would be willing to install direct communication with C2.
Geoff |
|
| | |
|
| |
|
|
